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ChanceWMitchell · Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 57 Location: Ames, IA

Stingray,
Id say its pretty comparable in size to BGE. They managed to put a lot more in it though.

And im very glad i got a chance to ride big bad wolf this year and am sad to see it go. i dont understand this move at all... BGE cant afford to take out a coaster like that. when i was there in early july its queue house was full most of the time. and it was really the only moderate coaster in the park. im sure they'll have a great replacement, but they dont seem to be out of land by any means... youd think they could add a new attraction without removing it. oh well.

Doug,
i didnt say diamondback was bad, just over rated. people have said its the vest coaster ever, and i just dont get why... sure, it offers great airtime, but i think its substantially less than Nitro or Goliath at Over Georgia. and its layout offers nothing apart from it. the helix is forceless, the hammerhead gentle, and the midcourse bites way too hard. i do, however, love the new trains!

but thats the basis for my opinion. and when my 55 year old mother got off saying "thats a fun little ride" i knew ir was far too mild for my taste... haha
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e_tapley0687 · Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 398 Location: Nashville, TN

^ Oh maybe you can give me some tips for BGE. I'm seriously thinking about going there one of the weekends in Sept! Tips on a cheap nearby hotel is a plus lol.
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ChanceWMitchell · Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 57 Location: Ames, IA

hmmm... i suppose i should mention im sleeping out of my car and not getting hotels on this trip. haha, im cheap. so i cant offer much advice on lodging...

BGE is pretty easy to navigate and im not in any way a local expert on it, so i dont have too much to say...

i guess the big thing is to try and achieve a pretty easy goal: be on the first ride of the day on 4 different coasters. scotland opens at 9:30, so run to Loch Ness Monster. france opens at 10, so run to griffon next. italy and festa italia open at 10:30, so after griffon you should run back around through scotland to Apollos Chariot. germany opens up at 11, so run back through scotland and france to get first ride on alpengeist. or you can get in line for BBW which opens at 11:30. it requires a lot of quick movenent through hilly terrain, but its a neat thing to accomplish!
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Stingray · Joined: 20 Apr 2009 Posts: 193 Location: North Carolina

Thanks, I really want to go there. Does Hershey part still give out free candy or samples? Is there a tour of the factory there?
I glad you enjoy Big Bad Wolf. And I totally agree with you. Why remove a ride and make it one less an attraction. I remember when the Dragon Fire coaster(I think it was called that) was there and they rip that out and made a panic area. They have room for more stuff. Why make it less there. The Germany part is got what 2 or 3 big rides and the bumper cars. Taking out the wolf seems to much. Just Darkastle and DasFathus to eat are the main attraction. Come on Bush Gardens. Yeah, it's sad I just wish they could keep it. Also what was it about Apollo's you thought was overrated. I like it, but I know there some issues with it. What was it that you found different. Thanks man, you got awesome summer there I learning a lot from the review you give.

ChanceWMitchell · Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 57 Location: Ames, IA

they do a tour at hershey, but i didnt go on it. i have no clue about free candy, i didnt find any but i wasnt looking either.

and i had heard such great things about apollos chariot. i wasnt impressed with what felt like pretty average airtime. honestly, im not a huge B&M fan. i think their rides are just too mild for my taste. with the exception of their inverts and a couple hypers. i know im in the minority, but its just just my opinion.
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ChanceWMitchell · Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 57 Location: Ames, IA

i have now ridden every B&M hyper in the western hemisphere, so i figured id share my feelings on how they rank. this is just an opinion, but i am willing to defend my thoughts. here we go:
1. Behemoth
2. Nitro
3. Goliath at SFoG
4. Raging Bull
5. Apollo's Chariot
6. Diamondback
7. Goliath at La Ronde
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Stingray · Joined: 20 Apr 2009 Posts: 193 Location: North Carolina

Ok my B&M has been limited to BGE or KD(is there a B&M at KD?). So, is the longer the ride the better it is for B&M or just the design. What was Apollo's rank from your view point was that ride also too short or just not enough of a design.
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ChanceWMitchell · Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 57 Location: Ames, IA

the only B&M at KD is Dominator, a floorless.

but its really a variety of things that factor in. length is a factor, but not a huge one. the big factor for hypers is airtime. but there has to be a bit more to its layout. thats why La Ronde's Goliath ranks last, its nothing but mediocre air hills. basically it just comes down to how much of the ride is just plain fun.

i found diamondback pretty dull following the hammerhead, and just boring after the midcourse. Apollos was fun and has a great unique layout. but it was their first hyper so the airtime is a ways below average. nitro and SFoG's goliath both deliver with fantastic airtime and high g turns. neither ride ever lets up. and behemoth is just incredible.
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CoastinCam · Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 19 Location: MN

I'm wondering what Raging Bull has over Diamondback? I mean, Raging Bull, talk about boring forceless ride... I've ridden both and find D-back far superior. Just my two cents. Would love to hear your opinion.

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